{"id":19204,"date":"2025-02-05T17:23:52","date_gmt":"2025-02-05T16:23:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/staging.dynamicgroup.net\/?p=19204"},"modified":"2025-02-05T17:26:57","modified_gmt":"2025-02-05T16:26:57","slug":"licensing-of-nested-groups-in-entra-id","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/en\/news\/licensing-of-nested-groups-in-entra-id\/","title":{"rendered":"Licensing of nested groups in Entra ID"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>How can I simplify the <strong>licensing of nested groups in Entra ID<\/strong>? Entra ID is a powerful identity and access management platform. However, when it comes to group licensing in Entra ID, the lack of support for nested groups is a problem for many administrators. Especially in hybrid environments, where companies have been working with nested groups for years, this poses a significant challenge.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-19236 size-full\" title=\"Licensing of nested groups in Entra ID is possible\" src=\"https:\/\/dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Screenshot-2025-01-27-092156.png\" alt=\"Licensing of nested groups in Entra ID is possible\" width=\"828\" height=\"353\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Screenshot-2025-01-27-092156.png 828w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Screenshot-2025-01-27-092156-300x128.png 300w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Screenshot-2025-01-27-092156-768x327.png 768w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Screenshot-2025-01-27-092156-800x341.png 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 828px) 100vw, 828px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>What is the problem with nested groups in Entra ID?<\/h2>\n<p>In on-premises Active Directory (AD), the <strong>nesting of groups is a proven practice for simplifying authorization management<\/strong>. In Entra ID, however, this structure is not consistently supported, especially not for licensing. This means that users who are indirectly members of a licensed group through nested groups do not automatically receive a license.<\/p>\n<p>\nA concrete example: In educational institutions, there are often different license levels, such as A3 for \u201cemployees\u201d (e.g. teachers and administrators) and A1 for other employees. However, companies cannot simply apply licenses to nested groups in Entra ID, which makes automatic assignment much more difficult.<\/p>\n<p>This is what the nested group structure in AD could look like:<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-19298 \" title=\"Lizenz Zuweisung im verschachtelte Gruppenstruktur im AD\" src=\"https:\/\/dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/License-assignment-in-the-nested-group-structure-in-AD.png\" alt=\"License assignment in the nested group structure in AD\" width=\"673\" height=\"777\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/License-assignment-in-the-nested-group-structure-in-AD.png 788w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/License-assignment-in-the-nested-group-structure-in-AD-260x300.png 260w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/License-assignment-in-the-nested-group-structure-in-AD-768x887.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 673px) 100vw, 673px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"flex-shrink-0 flex flex-col relative items-end\">\n<div class=\"pt-0\">\n<div class=\"gizmo-bot-avatar flex h-8 w-8 items-center justify-center overflow-hidden rounded-full\">\n<div class=\"relative p-1 rounded-sm flex items-center justify-center bg-token-main-surface-primary text-token-text-primary h-8 w-8\">After synchronization in Entra ID, the structure remains unchanged. Here you will find further information on <a href=\"https:\/\/dynamicgroup.net\/news\/synchronize-nested-ad-groups-in-entra-id\/\">synchronizing nested AD groups in Entra ID<\/a>.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-19302 size-full\" title=\"How does the licensing of nested groups work - and where are the limits?\" src=\"https:\/\/dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Screenshot-2025-02-05-172156.png\" alt=\"How does the licensing of nested groups work - and where are the limits?\" width=\"705\" height=\"367\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Screenshot-2025-02-05-172156.png 705w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Screenshot-2025-02-05-172156-300x156.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 705px) 100vw, 705px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The groups in <span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">blue<\/span> should receive an A1 license and the groups in <span style=\"color: #ff9900;\">orange<\/span> an A3 license.<br \/>\nProblem:<br \/>\n&#8211; Entra ID only assigns licenses to direct members of a group.<br \/>\n&#8211; Nested groups are ignored when assigning licenses and are left empty-handed.<\/p>\n<p>In Entra, we had to assign a license for each of the following groups<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">Students \u2192 A1 license<\/span><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"color: #3366ff;\">Guest users \u2192 A1 license<\/span><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"color: #ff9900;\">Teachers \u2192 A3 license<\/span><\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong><span style=\"color: #ff9900;\">Administrators \u2192 A3 license<\/span><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>The more complex the nesting, the more complex the license assignment and the more error-prone the process.<\/p>\n<h2>Licensing of nested groups: Restrictions and solutions<\/h2>\n<p>Fortunately, there are various solutions to avoid the limitations of nested groups.<\/p>\n<h3>Automated scripts and workflows<\/h3>\n<p>PowerShell scripts or automation tools such as Microsoft Graph API can be used to create workflows that regularly sort users into static groups.<br \/>\nHowever, this requires continuous maintenance and monitoring. Further information and <a href=\"https:\/\/learn.microsoft.com\/en-us\/entra\/identity\/users\/licensing-ps-examples\">script examples can be found directly on microsoft.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h3>Dynamic groups in Entra ID<\/h3>\n<p>With the help of dynamic groups, users can be automatically assigned based on certain attributes. For example, rules can be defined to automatically assign teachers or administrators to an A3 license group.<br \/>\nRestriction: This function requires paid upgrades to <a href=\"https:\/\/learn.microsoft.com\/en-us\/entra\/fundamentals\/licensing\">Entra ID P1 or P2 licenses<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, it is not possible to use complex nested filters to precisely assign members to a target group. With Entra&#8217;s on-board tools, there is only a maximum of 5 filters that can be added linearly.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-19294 \" title=\"Dynamic groups in Entra ID\" src=\"https:\/\/dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Dynamic-groups-in-Entra-ID.png\" alt=\"Dynamic groups in Entra ID\" width=\"1131\" height=\"242\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Dynamic-groups-in-Entra-ID.png 1385w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Dynamic-groups-in-Entra-ID-300x64.png 300w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Dynamic-groups-in-Entra-ID-1024x219.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Dynamic-groups-in-Entra-ID-768x164.png 768w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/Dynamic-groups-in-Entra-ID-800x171.png 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1131px) 100vw, 1131px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3>Dynamic groups with our cost-effective DynamicSync solution &#8211; allocate licenses precisely<\/h3>\n<p>As we have described in the sections above, manual license assignment in nested groups in Entra ID is time-consuming and error-prone. It leads to a high level of frustration for administrators.<br \/>\nA more efficient solution is to create dynamic groups.<\/p>\n<p>Our <a href=\"https:\/\/dynamicgroup.net\/dynamicsync\/\">DynamicSync<\/a> solution offers a more cost-effective alternative to the expensive Entra ID P1 and P2 licenses. Dynamic groups with P1 licenses only support up to 5 linear filters. DynamicSync offers a fast alternative solution for assigning licenses with up to 500 filters to efficiently manage even complex nested groups.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-19286 size-full\" title=\"DynamicSync - alternative solution for assigning licenses with up to 500 filters\" src=\"https:\/\/dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/DynamicGroupSync-Dynamic-filter-arrows-1-e1631710876668-768x180-1.png\" alt=\"DynamicSync - alternative solution for assigning licenses with up to 500 filters\" width=\"768\" height=\"180\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/DynamicGroupSync-Dynamic-filter-arrows-1-e1631710876668-768x180-1.png 768w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/DynamicGroupSync-Dynamic-filter-arrows-1-e1631710876668-768x180-1-300x70.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><br \/>\nDynamic groups based on attributes such as department, location or user role automatically assign users to the corresponding groups that receive the appropriate license. In our example, students and guest users belong to the A1 license group, while teachers, research assistants (WM) and administrators are automatically assigned to the A3 license group.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-19217\" title=\"Licensing of nested groups in the Microsoft 365 admin center\" src=\"https:\/\/dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/A1-Lizenz-zuordnen.png\" alt=\"Licensing of nested groups in the Microsoft 365 admin center\" width=\"760\" height=\"520\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/A1-Lizenz-zuordnen.png 2984w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/A1-Lizenz-zuordnen-300x205.png 300w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/A1-Lizenz-zuordnen-1024x700.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/A1-Lizenz-zuordnen-768x525.png 768w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/A1-Lizenz-zuordnen-1536x1051.png 1536w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/A1-Lizenz-zuordnen-2048x1401.png 2048w, https:\/\/www.dynamicgroup.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/A1-Lizenz-zuordnen-800x547.png 800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 760px) 100vw, 760px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>DynamicSync also allows you to synchronize group memberships from the on-premises Active Directory with Entra ID groups. This means that you can continue to use local AD groups while licensing in Entra ID is based on these groups. This reduces complexity and saves time as group management is automatically applied to both environments.<\/p>\n<h2>Summary<\/h2>\n<p>The lack of support for licensing nested groups in Entra ID presents companies with considerable challenges, especially when it comes to license management. However, DynamicSync offers an efficient and scalable solution. By using dynamic groups and the ability to <strong>synchronize group memberships in the on-premises Active Directory with Entra ID groups<\/strong>, license allocation is greatly simplified.<\/p>\n<p>DynamicSync makes it possible to manage even complex structures quickly and error-free thanks to dynamic filters, allowing companies to drastically reduce the effort required for manual license assignments.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/dynamicgroup.net\/dynamicsync-book-a-demo\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><button class=\"ButtonBeratung aligncenter\">Test DynamicSync now<\/button><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How can I simplify the licensing of nested groups in Entra ID? 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